Why Do Motorcycle Riders Brag About "Freedom"?

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Everyone knows that "Motorcycle" is synonymous with "Freedom" ... but why? Motorbikes have the same dynamics as bicycles and go to the same places as cars - what's so free about that?

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: frt9.co/pki2ox
Fair warning - this is a challenging read. Asking what makes freedom "free" is child's play compared to Pirsig's query: what makes good "good"? Fascinating!

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JonB Retro
JonB Retro Πριν 16 λεπτά
Ironic that he talks about ditching the virtual world, him being a GRdronr and all that...
Mateo Noriega
Mateo Noriega Πριν 10 ώρες
How about the frame of your helmet?
ossa60
ossa60 Πριν ημέρα
people who hitch hike or ride a bus feel a lot more free than bikers.....I ride motorcycles but I never think that's synonimous with freedom. When you have to push it after it suffers a puncture, when it doesn't run because of some mechanical problem, when you have to spend hours and hours doing paper work in customs just to enter another country, when you can't find fuel in the middle of nowhere, etc., etc...that's no freedom!!!
TheJespah
TheJespah Πριν 2 ημέρες
These were very true. You can just hop on a motorcycle in the morning and get off in the evening without touching your phone for the whole day. You didn't even think about it or about any other normaly pressing matters in your life. It was just you, maybe a friend, your bike and the road. That is what the "freedom" motorcyclists talk about is.
Bruce
Bruce Πριν 2 ημέρες
It is Not actually Freedom But more so "Aliveness"... Until the Lazy Fuker who doesn't use their side view mirrors or turning their head to LOOK,,, while talking on their mobile phone, dives into your lane and knocks you of your bike!!!
MiMundoGeek
MiMundoGeek Πριν 2 ημέρες
Freedom is on Latino America where Filtering is Allowed 100% no trafic at all
Thorn Spitfire
Thorn Spitfire Πριν 3 ημέρες
Screw you, I need glasses.
ZackCornelsen
ZackCornelsen Πριν 3 ημέρες
You are speaking poetry my man. Best 3 min video of the year
Gaurav S
Gaurav S Πριν 3 ημέρες
Ryan&F9 team, I've canceled my Netflix subscription......I am counting on you guys to deliver 😀
The Dreaming Singer
The Dreaming Singer Πριν 4 ημέρες
To anyone who lives in a seemingly uninteresting flat state with barely any areas with natural beauty like florida or the part i stay in atleast. Put your phone gps on the way to your next trip on no highway and no tolls and see how many beautiful places you come across and how good it feels not being constantly threatened by the amount of cars that surround you. I’ve done it on almost every trip thats like over an hour ride and the feeling of riding on those rodes is just majestic
FireHazardTK
FireHazardTK Πριν 4 ημέρες
what's with the audio here? 0:27
Kainã Aguiar Ferreira
Kainã Aguiar Ferreira Πριν 4 ημέρες
Batalha de GRdronrs! Batalha com o mussomano!
Wung Yao
Wung Yao Πριν 4 ημέρες
Was reading this book and lo got featured here
Skid Worx
Skid Worx Πριν 5 ημέρες
Who knew you were such a deep thinker.. I haven't had feels like this since the last time is listened to Bob Seger.
Fabio Punk
Fabio Punk Πριν 5 ημέρες
With all respect, I find that book overrated. I tried to read it four times. Four. Yes. First in english, then my mother language, then again in English after I learned this language better. No way to get to the end. I reached my conclusions. They are explained in my book that describes a trip across the US north east riding my bike Peace to all
Bill
Bill Πριν 6 ημέρες
Freedom is also driving in my 4Runner wearing shorts, t-shirt, flip flops when is 100f or 20f outside and snowing. Then napping in the back. A car might be a "cage" but so is a helmet and full suit, body armour, especially in summer. No one ever got a BJ on a motorcycle while driving down the road.
Izhaaq 996
Izhaaq 996 Πριν 6 ημέρες
Wise words
James Mcguinness
James Mcguinness Πριν 6 ημέρες
Always feel like it's just Americans that bang on about freedom everywhere else just looks at them as another form of transport that has cheaper insurance, road tax and petrol (gas).
Michael Centner
Michael Centner Πριν 6 ημέρες
Don’t want a frame, buy a convertible.
Richard
Richard Πριν 6 ημέρες
This channel is the "Top gear" of motorcycles, when Top gear was hoted by Richard, Jeremy and James of course.
Sagacious Eagle
Sagacious Eagle Πριν 6 ημέρες
Short answer, no frame.
Ken Deater
Ken Deater Πριν 6 ημέρες
We need a 20/30 minute version of this! Thanks Fort 9, you never disappoint!
Steven Evidente
Steven Evidente Πριν 7 ημέρες
Happy? Just ride. Sad? Just ride. Angry? Just ride (to cool off, not to look for a fight). It might be a cliche, but in travelling on a motorcycle, its always about the journey, not the destination.
Noah McNeill
Noah McNeill Πριν 7 ημέρες
Motorcyclists are keenly aware of the risk/reward paradigm every time they throw a leg over a bike. They acutely understand that to feel alive, to be free, one must acknowledge tangible dangers and take them head on. Only through embracing risk in the pursuit of something better, can we ever know what achievement, purpose, or joy feels like. Tell that to someone in the era of COVID.
Tony Rule
Tony Rule Πριν 7 ημέρες
Top quality, as always.
glen wallace
glen wallace Πριν 8 ημέρες
Zen and the art is one of the hardest books I ever read, but also the best. It was more about 'Quality' that motorcycles though. I still think of how PIRSIG did oil changes: Park in a dirt lot, pull the oil plug, put the plug back in and fill 'er up.
Double Clutch Auto Reviews
Double Clutch Auto Reviews Πριν 8 ημέρες
At 2:15 is when I felt like your words really hit me... Our focus is honed in on the stimulation of riding, with no room for all of the nonsense distractions like FB that we have today. We are one with our bikes, as the bike needs our full attention and physical inputs to control it properly. We are wielding a machine that can outperform supercars at 1/100th of the cost.... And we are experiencing all of this in a REAL moment ourselves in our own lives. Very well said as always RF9.
T h o m a s
T h o m a s Πριν 8 ημέρες
Dude WHAT song song name at the end
METALLHAUS
METALLHAUS Πριν 8 ημέρες
Song at the end: grdron.info/auto/jY6Qd86uyMi6ZMs/b-nteo.html Youre welcome ;)
Moto Minimalist
Moto Minimalist Πριν 8 ημέρες
FortNine is freedom, from hum drum boring motorcycle videos. As always, outstanding.
dylawn55
dylawn55 Πριν 9 ημέρες
That book sucks major ass. Tried several times to read it but he just rambles and incessantly complains. Can't do it. Rubbish, imho
2007crf450r
2007crf450r Πριν 9 ημέρες
exactly what i feel like when i jump on my street glide FREEDOM
panos hanis
panos hanis Πριν 9 ημέρες
Damn bro thats nice
Panagiotis Bakatselos
Panagiotis Bakatselos Πριν 9 ημέρες
excellent!
sandakureva
sandakureva Πριν 9 ημέρες
I think it's mostly because I can go anywhere, faster than most people, and for a fraction of the cost. You'll spend 300-500 on a one-way trip from where I live to visit my family in OKC in a car... or way less on my motorcycle because it gets 55-60mpg.
R N Kader
R N Kader Πριν 9 ημέρες
Right On! Right On! Right On! RyanF9
K Minaya
K Minaya Πριν 10 ημέρες
I'm in NYC and I brag about parking. Something happens to you when you come back from a ride and you see the same spot open. Do you park? no you just keep on riding. Then a smart car takes your spot.
Gacheru Mburu
Gacheru Mburu Πριν 11 ημέρες
👍
Johny40Se7en
Johny40Se7en Πριν 12 ημέρες
You've got such a gift for making well thought out and mentally stimulating videos. That segways straight into why many people say that motorcycling is freedom. Compared with driving 4 wheeled vehicles, riding a motorbike is fully engaging. You're in the moment, and involved completely in what you're doing, whilst amongst the elements. No major distractions., and the minor ones have to be kept in check too, or you'll hear that age old story of "had to lay her down", or they'll be blind dating bushes or trees 😅😂
zottejakke3
zottejakke3 Πριν 12 ημέρες
@FortNine Check Fred Feldman's chapter in Rollin, B. E., Pineo, C., Gray, C. M., & Mommer, K. (Eds.). (2006). Harley-Davidson and Philosophy: Full-throttle Aristotle. Open Court Publishing. It delves deeper into your starting argument, but is skeptical of this kind of 'phenomenological' freedom you turn towards :)
David Stead
David Stead Πριν 12 ημέρες
Brilliant. I've been meditating for many years. Riding is meditation. Forced focus. You nailed it. "Ommmmm...........mmmmygodimgoing180!"
Chege Duncan
Chege Duncan Πριν 13 ημέρες
Come to Nairobi, In peak traffic, a 30 mins motorbike ride is easily 3 hours in traffic in a car... motorbikes are freedom... 4 hour longer trips out of town drop to hours on a bike... that is freedom ...
Avramm 96
Avramm 96 Πριν 14 ημέρες
These guys' videos are on a whole different level. Congratulations.
Brad W
Brad W Πριν 14 ημέρες
I came here for the eagle screech and was not disappointed.
Alex Loredo
Alex Loredo Πριν 14 ημέρες
Man this is gold.. that end..
Jose DeJesus
Jose DeJesus Πριν 14 ημέρες
Just had my bike stolen 2 months ago and damn do I miss her
Jordan stalheim
Jordan stalheim Πριν 14 ημέρες
Do the pan America
Brett Middleton
Brett Middleton Πριν 14 ημέρες
Do one about why we like to take turns at 100+mph. I like that little rush it makes me feel, to look left and see asphalt flying past my face
Joseph Melia
Joseph Melia Πριν 14 ημέρες
Ryan is king of motorcycle philosophers. Motorcycle emptiness? Not with Fortnine.
Muhammad Adri mhd nazri
Muhammad Adri mhd nazri Πριν 14 ημέρες
your video is awesome man!
Jochen Stacker
Jochen Stacker Πριν 14 ημέρες
2:30 if the frame is gone on your bike, you shouldn't be riding it anymore. :p
The antisocial 1
The antisocial 1 Πριν 15 ημέρες
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings...
Zen and two wheels
Zen and two wheels Πριν 15 ημέρες
AMEN! like this one...Best way to stay mentally healthy...
Jerimah Noonan
Jerimah Noonan Πριν 15 ημέρες
I come here for the biting sarcasm....nothing more.
Flechette
Flechette Πριν 15 ημέρες
I bought a pretty expensive helmet that I can hook up to the GPS, radio and make phone calls through my smart phone. I have noticed that I just turn it off when I go for a ride.
FatStogie
FatStogie Πριν 15 ημέρες
This is like a Pink Floyd song that’s ends too soon, left you wanting more. Great video as always.
Tito B.A.
Tito B.A. Πριν 16 ημέρες
I don't tell people why I like motorcycles, but in reality it's because I go from 0-60 in 4 seconds on the cheap. The rest is just an excuse.
Bruce Wayne
Bruce Wayne Πριν 16 ημέρες
"Because, freedom." *eagle screeches* .... *instantly likes*
Ruacasa
Ruacasa Πριν 16 ημέρες
Worthy of Pirsig references. Well done. Really enjoyed that.
Gil Garcia
Gil Garcia Πριν 16 ημέρες
I don't understand how anyone can disagree with this definition.....197 dislikes.....they must be all from Alaska......
yancy westgate
yancy westgate Πριν 17 ημέρες
Speaking of obese dirt bikes. when you gonna tell us about the Pan Am?
Abdul Hameed Khan
Abdul Hameed Khan Πριν 17 ημέρες
Freedom of motorcycling in India.. grdron.info/auto/cZdtnNaa1ZWvaak/b-nteo.html
Adrian Rainbow
Adrian Rainbow Πριν 17 ημέρες
LOL, absolutely nailed it. Freedom is putting yourself in a situation where you have no time to consider, anything else.
Zane Blaire
Zane Blaire Πριν 17 ημέρες
Motorcycle riders are almost exclusively egotistical and narcissistic. That's why.
Tyrone Vince Tamayo
Tyrone Vince Tamayo Πριν 17 ημέρες
Every time I watch F9, I feel like I'm watching a movie.
Alan Lee
Alan Lee Πριν 6 ημέρες
For something as transient (however worthy) as these videos, the production values are high.
D. C.
D. C. Πριν 18 ημέρες
.....Freedom is the only way yeah!!!!....
Gussacci
Gussacci Πριν 18 ημέρες
Well said💯💥🔥💭✌🏽
stuntmonkey00
stuntmonkey00 Πριν 18 ημέρες
"Obese dirt bike with a motor from 2006." Ryan endearing himself to BMW as usual lol.
Robert Ferguson
Robert Ferguson Πριν 18 ημέρες
I have a request for some information as you guys make the best biking videos I know of.... Are maxi scooters worth thinking about for all round use nowadays? Low maintenance, storage space, economy and power?? Help!!!
there can be only one Chris
there can be only one Chris Πριν 18 ημέρες
Wow! Great vid
bikebudha01
bikebudha01 Πριν 18 ημέρες
Deep. So Deep. Not exactly sure what it's Deep of, sniff sniff, but I have a good idea...
Ian Jones
Ian Jones Πριν 18 ημέρες
Love F9 but vids are getting way too short...has Ryan got a new hobby 😁
steelbride74
steelbride74 Πριν 18 ημέρες
I am your greatest fan, just sorry for not being able to send messages 👍
Informal OCD
Informal OCD Πριν 18 ημέρες
The commonly dismissed bicycle is all of these things & so much more. Half the old men I ride mountain bikes with, used to race motocross and have come around to this conclusion ;)
Unlike U
Unlike U Πριν 18 ημέρες
The longest 3:32 of my life
Mannix
Mannix Πριν 18 ημέρες
Great vid! Good job guys! 👍👍
Oz Sawdust Makers
Oz Sawdust Makers Πριν 19 ημέρες
bloody hell you are great F9. From a fellow 2 wheel Ryan in another hemisphere.
LazyJack2003
LazyJack2003 Πριν 19 ημέρες
I thought the 2nd amendment is there to ensure freedom?! Ah, that´s just for the weird US ... Ryan, this short clip was like a breath of fresh air and a long body stretch! So now I get on my bike - and just go somewhere. With a big smile on my face.
James George
James George Πριν 19 ημέρες
"Screw it, lets ride" is the cheapest therapy going in my book.
crocketgsxr6
crocketgsxr6 Πριν 19 ημέρες
the freedom to let it sit in my garage unused for 8 months out of the year
ST V
ST V Πριν 19 ημέρες
no windshield, and no full face helmet for me, thanx. Amen. ;-)
genw3st
genw3st Πριν 19 ημέρες
I've watched this video no fewer than 10 times over the past couple of weeks. The video is so beautiful, so philosophical, so poetic; it perfectly captures the freedom that we all feel out there. Thanks, guys. Great work, indeed.
Ben Harvey
Ben Harvey Πριν 19 ημέρες
Where can I get a Pirsig jacket?
Damianos 980
Damianos 980 Πριν 19 ημέρες
Enduro is freedom
nickie banchou
nickie banchou Πριν 19 ημέρες
some people say freedom is riding on 2 wheels and feeling the world around you some people say freedom is not having to gear up head to toe and hop in a miata i have both, i'm not buying any pseudo esoteric excuse that gives either "moar freedum"
Phil.i.P
Phil.i.P Πριν 19 ημέρες
Yes. Yes. Yes. Short. Sweet. Perfect 👍🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
Michael R
Michael R Πριν 20 ημέρες
All my bones are going to be framed in casts after I go down on a motorcycle 😭
Leo Girardi
Leo Girardi Πριν 20 ημέρες
I wonder if the person jogging their dog at the end was also doing a "freedom" video?
Christopher Ng'ang'a
Christopher Ng'ang'a Πριν 20 ημέρες
This... this has got to be my moat favourite bike video ever
osgnuru
osgnuru Πριν 20 ημέρες
This is a brilliant video. No frame, that is it, exactly.
Roger Garcia
Roger Garcia Πριν 20 ημέρες
Very creative and true! Freedom 🏍
Blackviking Price
Blackviking Price Πριν 20 ημέρες
well put
W Browser
W Browser Πριν 20 ημέρες
incredible content
Alejandro Caporaletti
Alejandro Caporaletti Πριν 20 ημέρες
In an open Jeep you don't have a frame either...ahah. Excelent video, as allways. Thanks.
Webist K
Webist K Πριν 20 ημέρες
Domestication Resistant
HSD
HSD Πριν 20 ημέρες
Love the short video series. Keep em coming
HSM
HSM Πριν 20 ημέρες
Can we talk about the growth in the writing of this channel? This vid is essentially an re-upload of a vlog from a few years ago. Even uses some of the same argumentation. ("Han dynasty peasant," for example.) But holy jumpins, Ryan has grown as a rhetorician. The structure and symmetry of presentation, the use of writing devices and the brash willingness to walk the line between everyman jargon and $10 words. 36 seconds in the video and I was blown away. This channel's writing consistently makes me feel inspired. It's passionate, and educational, too. Not only about motorcycles and the nature of people who make them and ride them, but about the English language itself. I discovered this channel a little over a month ago and watched nearly every video in a span of 7 days, spurred on by the polyamorous marriage of fantastic writing, impactful cinematography, and content that has something to say. It is truly incredible to see the melding of the visions of the F9 director/editor, and its presenter. The camera work is intentional and novel. I sense a spirit of respect and friendship between the two partners, and I love the spirit of collaboration and creativity. Hell, I've even taken to watching these videos before writing an essay for university, because I find them so linguistically rich, they inspire me to go off and compose my own ideas. They've introduced me to so many aspects of motorcycling, from the community, to safety, to combustion engine ins and outs, to where the rubber meets the road with any given cycle they review. -I mean, how cool is it to have a motorcycle review talking about S curves and the nature of beauty? I love that reviews almost always come down to how the cycle will be functionally used. They feel explored, not summarized, shown, not told. And if a Review critique comes down to a cliché, they earn it! They don't just state the cliché, they almost show how the cliché became a cliché by demonstrating it through the bike the happen to be riding. In case there was any doubt to those involved with the making of this show, the effort and tight writing of the F9 GRdron series pays off. It has earned my views. A catchy headline may have been the reason I first clicked on a video, but great, educational, passionate, art was the reason I kept watching. It is the reason I continue to watch. I'm grateful this for novel little show F9 has allowed to grow here, and the fantastic work of the creative staff over the years. Personally, I hope they keep it up.
Sir Bedevere
Sir Bedevere Πριν 21 ημέρα
Converting your dual sport to a feather weight adventure bike opens up the world better than any other motorcycle.
Eric Weber
Eric Weber Πριν 21 ημέρα
This is why I keep coming back, Ryan! This was perfect.
Durox Kilo
Durox Kilo Πριν 21 ημέρα
i'd argue that today's connectivity has rather widened our experience and our views are being updated faster than anytime in our existence. our species kind of developed and figured out the social norms in rather small groups often times in literal caves.. *in 10 days 360k ppl watched a guy talk philosophy on a motorcycle channel. how long did it take Plato to reach this sort of audience penetration? :} ** Plato would definitely have a twitter account let's be real.
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